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One Writer’s Journey: Adventures in Publishing

This sounds strange to most people when I talk about it, but I have never pursued a traditional book deal. I mean that. Never in my life. I sent my first novel, The Lost Village, (along with four-hundred dollars) to the Scott Meredith Literary Agency in New York in about 2001. A nice editor got back to me and commended me on the ambitiousness of my novel, said I was a promising writer and that The Lost Village was actually a great book, but, no one would publish it because it was too long. 258,000 words. He told me there wasn’t a publisher in the land that would touch a first time author with a book of that length. He qualified that and said that if I was a celebrity author like King or Patterson it would be fine, no problem, I could publish my laundry list and it would sell. But I wasn’t King or Patterson, I was an unknown. And publishers wanted nice tidy little eighty to one-hundred-thousand word books from unknown authors. Please send something else along that’s at a more appropriate length, (along with another four-hundred bucks, by the way).

Well, that was that, thank you very much. I never sent another thing to that agency or any other agency for that matter. Maybe I’ve got a thin skin, but I was no longer interested in what literary agents had to say. I was keenly aware of the statistics, of how many manuscripts ever made it to an editor’s desk. One writer friend of mine had been rejected so many times he was on the verge of suicide.

So, I did the unthinkable. Way back in the dark ages before kindle and nook and all those other reading devices we now take for granted were invented, I decided to self-publish my magnum opus. This was before Amazon or any of the other booksellers were selling e-books. If you wanted to self-publish a book you needed to go through one of those “vanity” presses that charged for services. So that’s what I did. I brought The Lost Village out in hardcover and trade paperback and sold downloadable copies from my website to those who were willing to read an enormous book on their computer screens. The book actually came out pretty well. It was formatted nicely, had a good cover. I signed up with the New England Horror Writers, did some group signings, made some friends, and, to my amazement, the book began to sell. Before long I was receiving some nice reviews from fellow authors as well as readers, and low and behold I found out that several ‘respectable’ authors with ‘real’ published books had recommended to the HWA (the Horror Writer’s Association) that The Lost Village be nominated for a Bram Stoker Award.

But of course it wasn’t nominated. Back then, and even now, the HWA has a very hard time recognizing anything self-published. They love their legacy publishers, and if your work isn’t sanctioned by one of them, well. They claim they consider all published works, and I believe they do, but it’s been my experience that very few independent books ever get much consideration. No matter, they are for the most part, a good and beneficial organization. But I believe in my heart (and this is just my opinion) that if they continue on their present course they will soon become as irrelevant as bookstores and legacy publishers.

The Lost Village sold well without the benefit of being sanctioned by a legacy publisher, or being recognized by the Horror Writers Association.

In the meantime I wrote several other books and was doing okay publishing short stories in various magazines and anthologies.

Then, a little more than three years ago, on invitation, I sent my novella, The Haunting of Sam Cabot to a brand new small press publisher, Damnation Books. Now this is the important part. Are you listening? It was the first time in my writing life that I had ever sent a manuscript to a book publisher. You heard me right. The very first time. At the time, Kindle was a brand new concept and I had never heard of it. Damn my error. Well, I heard right back from Damnation Books that they wanted to publish my book. Wow! First time. Couldn’t believe it. They subsequently published two more of my books including The Lost Village. I signed five year contracts with each of those books. I wish I never had. It was just about the time Kindle exploded on the scene and I was suddenly tied down to a publisher who priced my books much too high to sell well on Kindle. And oh my lord, the formatting! It was atrocious. To their credit, some of the formatting issues have recently been straightened out, but if you check sample versions of both The Lost Village and The Holocaust Opera you will see that the text of both books is entirely in italics. E-gads! And, to my utter chagrin they priced the Kindle version of The Lost Village at $9.95. Celebrity authors can get away with selling e-books at that price, unfortunately nobody else can. Try telling that to my publisher. I know in my heart that if it had been priced at $2.99 or even $3.99, where it should be, it would have been a Kindle bestseller by now. I begged and pleaded with my publisher to just try it but they wouldn’t budge. Too bad for them because they have lost me as an author. I am presently in the process of obtaining the rights back to The Haunting of Sam Cabot. The other two will be next. It’s going to take some legal wrangling, but it will happen. Not that they should care, They have what seems to be a massive stable of authors now, most of which seem quite satisfied to earn 17.5% of the list price instead of the 70% they could earn as independents. Go figure. I guess for some the prestige of having a REAL publisher outweighs everything else including earnings.

Since then I have self-published a collection of shorts for kindle Servants of Darkness that’s been doing very well for a collection (Collections aren’t supposed to be good sellers) and I’ve published a new novel, Apocalypse Island as well as several other novellas, and a bunch of short stories. Apocalypse Island is doing quite well, and I have a new novel, Soul Thief due out this spring.

So, here I am, right back to square one. I have always been a strong advocate of self-publishing. I fell down once and signed with a “publisher,” but unless I’m offered a huge amount of money and great e-book terms I will never ever do it again. I’m having too much fun on my own.

As I said in a previous post, this is just me. Each writer has to find his or her own path. But if you do choose a publisher, please choose carefully. I feel that my own writing journey is just beginning. The time has never been better for the independent author. Any way you do it takes time and patience. If you decide to self-publish, make sure you have a good book, a good cover and a great description. Hire a good editor and listen to what that person has to say. Once all that is done, make sure the book is formatted correctly for digital publication. You can hire that done at fairly reasonable cost. I’ve learned to do it myself. I’ve learned to do most everything myself, including some of my own cover art. Once it’s ready, put your book out there and promote it until you’re exhausted. With all of those things and a little luck maybe you will become the next Kindle bestseller.

Mark Edward Hall

14 Comments to “One Writer’s Journey: Adventures in Publishing”

  1. Peggy Richardson! Says:

    Mark, I absolutely soaked up what you had to say about self-publishing. Thanks!

  2. Mark Says:

    Thanks, for reading, Peggy. Glad you got some value from it.


  3. Dawnelle Shehan Says:

    Great advise from personal experience. Thanks!

  4. Mark Says:

    Thanks for checking out my blog post, Dawnelle.


  5. Kate Griffith Says:

    we have been on the same journey now for a long time. I, also, thanks to J.A. Konrath’s Blog, started self-publishing my books (the last 3 and a collection of short stories) since last summer. One of my books is doing extemely well on Kindle. The others, hopefully, in time. I (though I have nothing against my publisher other than I’m locked in a contract for a few more years) am also looking forward to self-publishing more of my work. Like you, I’ve learned to do everything myself.
    I just signed up with ACX in December and already have 6 of my (18) books in production. First one to be completed end of March. I’d love to talk to you about some things, ACX included. Please email me off your blog at if you would. Thank you, Kate Griffith

  6. Mark Says:

    Hi, Kate,

    I’ve seen you on the Damnation blog for several years now but have resisted contacting you. Thanks for replying to my blog.
    Anything you would like to discuss or questions you have that I might be able to answer, please feel free to ask.
    I wish you the best in this new and exciting frontier of independent publishing.

    By the way, I tried replying to the email address you gave me but it was returned with what they called permanent errors.


  7. Linda Says:

    Mark, Thank you for posting this. It was very enlightening. I’m a writer, as well. Nothing published yet but often wonder which is the best route. I am motivated and inspired by your determination and honesty. Thanks again for sharing.


  8. Mark Says:

    Thanks for posting, Linda. I don’t blog as often as I should. Too busy writing. But I have a new post coming soon. I plan on continuing to share my publishing experiences with other writers.
    I wish you all the best with your own work.


  9. wordwan Says:

    Hi, my name is Heather. I come by way of the “Passive Voice” article that relates to your issues.

    You’ve put the tipping point to all this. I don’t suggest that EVERY publisher would do something like this, but I sense, as is human nature, there will always be someone who covets your talent in some way that does you harm.

    And this publisher has done you great harm.

    Add me to any email lists you have. I realize you said you don’t blog much but it sounds like you’ve been through the fire on this book publishing issue and I am curious to find out what I can about what was and what will be, in this industry.

    For some reason, I made a connect between Damnation Books and Clive Barker. No connection actually. But it led me to one of his pages and something stated reminded me of what you said about HWA. They are old guard. And I suppose they will always be.

    There should be ebook writer Bram Stoker Awards. Maybe someone outside of HWA will have to invent some.

    Luck to you.


  10. Mark Says:

    Thanks for the reply, Heather. I have added you to my email list. That whole thing with Damnation is unsettling but hopefully it will come to an end soon. I am talking with a lawyer about my options. I have recently replied to a fellow Damnation author’s suit against Damnation and if you would like to read the entire post you can do it here. I replied to Tim’s post and he asked if he could post my reply on his blog. So far Damnation is remaining eerily silent. We shall see how it turns out.


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  12. Eric Says:

    I just signed w/ Damnation Books for my debut novel. Wish I’d known about this before I did so! So far OK, but the process has just begun.

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  14. Mark Says:

    Eric, good luck with Damnation. I wish you had read my post first. If you google them you can find lots of other stuff.
    They still have three of my books but not for much longer. Can’t wait to get them out of my life.


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